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Chromer
6 days ago

Similar to how a couple of Alastair’s actions in this comic are somewhat the opposite of Damon’s in Halloween Switch, his view over immortality and family is the opposite of Russel Barnes’s in Maker’s Game. That’s because unlike Russel, Alastair truly is a loving father to his children and would never willingly abandon them. Also Russel could care less about hurting/killing people and/or their families/friends to achieve his goals whereas Alastair would only use lethal force for those that would dare try to hurt/kill his family and the people he’s connected with without any form of hesitation or remorse.

Blackwater Park
Blackwater Park
Reply to  Chromer
6 days ago

Russel is my favorite villain in the Sapphirefoxxverse.

Last edited 6 days ago by Blackwater Park
D The Weeb
D The Weeb
Reply to  Blackwater Park
6 days ago

Isabelle : Perhaps there’s more to Russel than meets the eye.
Chris : No, there’s less.
Isabelle : It’s possible
Chris : No. it isn’t. I’ve looked into his eyes. He’s pure evil.

kenwin07
Reply to  Chromer
6 days ago

Russell is a sociopath / psychopath to get what he wants including ruined everyone’s lives.

I’m glad that Alistair take charge of this case after he discovered Isabelle’s fake soul, because messing with the powerful sorcerer and his loved ones was a big mistake for the villain.

James Caras
6 days ago

The word your looking for is descendants.

caeos
6 days ago

please can i start referencing the famous 5 now… “”Gaela, Zack & Nat, Shane and Ali the fox” https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=famous+5+theme

Chromer
6 days ago

Because of how much the Cinder Isle group has done for Alastair in this comic, I believe he will do his ritual on Cinder Isle instead of his own island in Awakening. The former tunnelway from Cinder Isle to Alastair’s island gave me that idea. I mean when he found out Sylvana was freed, he probably knew it would only be a matter of time before she found his island so he has to do it elsewhere. Also Alastair’s ability to multitask is something Sylvana clearly doesn’t know about.

kenwin07
Reply to  Chromer
6 days ago

That long underground tunnel is a backup plan in case when things went wrong.

Sylvana (enter his lair, prepare to kill him): What? Alistair is not here? Where is he!?

Meanwhile at Cinder Isle –
Natalie’s son or daughter: Mom, the blue fox is here.

Natalie: Yes, sweetie. That blue fox is good friend of mine and there’s nothing to fear. Hello, Alistair.

Alistair: It’s a pleasure to see you again, Natalie.

Last edited 6 days ago by kenwin07
LaudoMatriae
Reply to  kenwin07
6 days ago

That’s what I said, escape tunnel.

DalkothSeer
6 days ago

Its good to see a reference to the Huntington kids again. And Im glad in more recent events he’s got Isabel and other allies to help ease his loneliness and open him up to trust others again like he said at the end of Ashes to Ashes. Though now that i look back in wondering, Were Piper and Amber twins? In the Kings Eres flashback we see them dressed the same and they look almost identical save for their Colors. Plus the SF universe has a history of twins: Tyler and Maria, Micheal and Hannah, Colleen from 2 sexy errors… Read more »

Dannio
Reply to  DalkothSeer
6 days ago

Yeah they should explore more of that

kenwin07
Reply to  DalkothSeer
6 days ago

Also from Godmother, other Chloe / Julian is pregnant with twins as well.

JD Washington
6 days ago

So, Alistair is 596 years old by 1997. That means, he was born in 1401, assuming his birth date has already passed that year. He’s 57 during The King’s Heirs (1458), 203 when Ivy died (1604), 613 when he first met Isabelle (2014), and 617 during Awakening (2018).

Poor guy having everyone he cared about die before him, and having to spend the rest of his life alone, cleaning the mess that his bitch-ass ex left. I repeat what I said before: Sylvana really is the scum of the earth.

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Dannio
Reply to  JD Washington
6 days ago

She is a very decent villain I will say that, and you know what its kinda sad we don’t get these villians in some movies that had a lot of potential like the one from Matchmaker ( I don’t remember his name exactly) and others. Its amazing really.

LaudoMatriae
Reply to  Dannio
6 days ago

I’m pretty sure there wasn’t a villain in Matchmaker. Were you referring to Makers Game?

Dannio
Reply to  LaudoMatriae
6 days ago

Yeah Makers game my bad, but yeah the villian in Makers was a good one, and I did like the fact that a non-blood villain could have a major impact on sorcerer society, maybe not as big as Sylvana but still leave a mark.

DalkothSeer
Reply to  Dannio
6 days ago

His real name was Russel Barnes but his villain name was grey mask.

Dannio
Reply to  DalkothSeer
6 days ago

Thanks, Sorry it just been a while since I last read it

IronmanMK265
Reply to  Dannio
6 days ago

the Sapphirefoxx universe has very interesting Big Bads in both the sorcerer and non-blood worlds, sometimes both in cases like Talia and Russel. the Mad Fox (Alastair’s dark side) was a interesting bad bad (at least for the first half of the comic)

MtnMan
Reply to  JD Washington
5 days ago

Not guilty due to insanity, IMHO. Hope she can be cured now she’s a woman again (roughly 2019).

LaudoMatriae
6 days ago

Cool, so now we know that he born in 1401.

D.vagamer77
6 days ago

I’m still wondering what part of the family Isabelle is related to…?

Zillatrek
Reply to  D.vagamer77
6 days ago

Isabelle is the great-great-great-granddaughter of Ivy, Alistair’s youngest daughter. This was told to us in the last episode of My Apprentice. Isabelle and Ivy have the same eyes.

Dannio
Reply to  Zillatrek
6 days ago

If that is the case then what happened to Noah, sure Sam could say that he lived his life and his descendants lived on in the current time, or something else happened to him, it open up a plot hole.

LaudoMatriae
Reply to  Dannio
6 days ago

It was said in Fractured that Isabelle is decended from Ivy so I don’t see how this creates a plot hole.

Dannio
Reply to  LaudoMatriae
6 days ago

Well what I mean is that it creates a question to what happened to Noah, we don’t know of his fate after Kings heir, now Sam could say he lived his life like the others and died of old age, but not to be a hater it just feels like easy writing, or did something else happened to him, like was he killed, did he become a villain, etc. I’m just saying itopens up a hole for the creator to explore, that’s what I’m saying

DalkothSeer
Reply to  Dannio
6 days ago

I agree. I also think Piper and Desmond have plot holes because way back near the ending of Ashes to Ashes a part of me thought since both of them were Ruby maybe Ashley would turn out to be one of their descendent who inherited the curse from another side of her family. There is plenty left in the realm of The Huntington family particularly with 5 children. I doupt Amber was old enough to have kids when she died but still there’s plenty more plot holes that could be filled in her regard.

Zillatrek
Reply to  DalkothSeer
6 days ago

Just because we don’t know everything about Alistair’s kids doesn’t mean there are “plot holes.” That’s not the proper use of the term “plot hole.” A plot hole is a logic problem within the basic structure of a given story, like how in Toy Story, Buzz believes that he’s a real space ranger for most of the film and yet freezes like all the other toys when Andy enters the room, something he wouldn’t do if he didn’t believe he was a toy. That’s a plot hole. Not knowing what happened to all of Alistair’s kids after The King’s Heirs… Read more »

Zillatrek
Reply to  Dannio
6 days ago

One, we don’t know what happened to Noah. We know from this page that he died a long time ago. Two, that doesn’t change the fact the we know from My Apprentice that Isabelle is a direct descendant of Ivy, not Noah. Three, how is not knowing what happened to Noah a plot hole? Just because something hasn’t been explained to the smallest detail doesn’t mean it’s a plot hole, especially when Noah’s life after The King’s Heirs hasn’t been “need to know” information. For the sake of this story, it’s really not necessary to know what happened to Noah.

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Dannio
Reply to  D.vagamer77
6 days ago

Its probably 50/50, its likely that it might be the daughtor/Ivy who might be the ancestor or the Son/Noah. Either way it is definetly one of those two, my only question is if Ashley is a descendant of the two older siblings.

DalkothSeer
Reply to  Dannio
6 days ago

Page 348 of fractured confirms Isabel is descendent from Ivy. And even though nothings been hinted at “yet” i wonder the same thing about Piper and Desmond.

Dannio
Reply to  DalkothSeer
6 days ago

Yeah I found that out a while ago

D.vagamer77
Reply to  DalkothSeer
6 days ago

Maybe the only way to be an apprentice of Alistair is to be a direct descendent of him…

Zillatrek
Reply to  D.vagamer77
6 days ago

Alistair is thinking about making Chris one of his apprentices, and he is most certainly not a descendant of Alistair. If he was, that would make Chris and Isabelle cousins, and that’s a big no-no.

Pretty sure Alistair can pick any sorcerer he wants to be his apprentice. That’s why he picked Ashley. She’s not a descendant of Alistair either. If she was, we would have known about it by now.

Last edited 6 days ago by Zillatrek
DalkothSeer
Reply to  D.vagamer77
6 days ago

Im pretty sure a high ranking Sorcerer can pick and choose any apprentice they want, plus he’s been thinking about having Chris join as an apprentice and there’s no way he could be a direct descendent as far as we know. I just assumed because Ashley was Ruby and we never did look into any other Huntington descendants other than Isabel and her mother. I dont think they’ll go that route because in awakening they need the blood of either a direct Ancestor or Descendant to break the whole statue curse thing and if Ashley was a descendant than Alisteir… Read more »

Zillatrek
Reply to  DalkothSeer
6 days ago

Ashley is not a direct descendant of Piper or Sylvana. If she was, that would have been said in one of the last episodes of Ashes to Ashes. Alistair would have known and he would have told her like he told Isabelle in My Apprentice.

kenwin07
6 days ago

Natalie: Just because someone stumbles and loses their path, doesn’t mean they’re lost forever. Sometimes, we all need a little help.

IronmanMK265
6 days ago

Alistair has made exceptions of those that were cursed like Natalie and Wanda, and yet years later he more than willing to return some Australians back to normal even though some didn’t want to. I just wondering if this was merely a exception because Gaela, Zack, Natalie, and Shane helped him that he made those special cases

Last edited 6 days ago by IronmanMK265
LaudoMatriae
Reply to  IronmanMK265
6 days ago

It’s probably just a plot hole that is commonly created by writing a story out of chronological order, like in Star Wars.

IronmanMK265
Reply to  LaudoMatriae
6 days ago

I mean yea there’s bound to be plot holes but I like to think outside the box and think of reasons as to why certain things didn’t appear during the original while they were in the Prequel or something like that

Last edited 6 days ago by IronmanMK265
DalkothSeer
Reply to  IronmanMK265
6 days ago

I his defense these kids actually helped him and made a valid point for letting some people choose to stay in their new forms. The guys turned girls from Australia were assholes in the beginning who just smashed him for the fun of it. I doubt he was in a listening mood when he came back at the end. In fact Isabel was the one to talk him into it mainly because she saw that his red side and her anger went a bit far with the modifiers she put on them.

IronmanMK265
Reply to  DalkothSeer
6 days ago

true as the Australians were turned due to shattering Alastair and mad fox messing with them. when he returned back to normal he had to turn them back regardless.

IronmanMK265
6 days ago

Immortality is truly a curse, as people you love fade away while you’re still the same :’(. Damn Sylvana and her transference spell that made Alastair suffer the same curse as she. But then again if it weren’t for him, many people would have have continued to suffered the curses even more generations. I wonder if Alastair even visits these 4 even if it’s been 22 years by this point.

kenwin07
Reply to  IronmanMK265
6 days ago

I hope Alistair pay a visit to this investigation team as a welcoming guest, even supernatural beings like him deserve a break now and then.

Here’s a heavy price of immortality –
“Death is rest for the soul. Who was it, who said that? If the body did not die, and the fears borne in the mind just continued to pile up, the world would be nothing more than an eternal prison.”

Ranmafan
6 days ago

Don’t you mean descendants?